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| Airmaster |
Posted: Jun 21 2006, 03:45 AM
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Zeta Gundam Group: Members Posts: 263 Member No.: 19 Joined: 19-March 06 |
So lets have some of these for fun ^^
No I don't mean the normal "What if Amuro got the Gundam Alex" That is way to common I'm talkig about stuff like "What if for what ever reason Amuro got his hands on the Blue Destiny?" Or "What would Shiro done if the 08th MS team had to fight against Byg Zam MP types on earth?" Or even.. "What if Amuro and Aina had fallen in love?" ... ... ... Ok lets take this one step more. "What if Amuro had been killed when Char's two Zaku IIs had attacked Side 7 while the Whitebase was being loaded?" |
| Ten No Zeorymer |
Posted: Jun 21 2006, 08:39 PM
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Gundam GP01 Group: Members Posts: 205 Member No.: 29 Joined: 25-March 06 |
Here's several I thought of:
What if Lalah was never in the picture? What if Amuro had join the Zeeks? What if Amuro never came back to the White Base? You should also probably put SPOILERS |
| Airmaster |
Posted: Jun 21 2006, 09:22 PM
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Zeta Gundam Group: Members Posts: 263 Member No.: 19 Joined: 19-March 06 |
Hmm...
Well Zeon would probably have won the OYW Or put up one hell of a fight anyway. The biggest problem would be how Amuro and Char would have worked things out between them. Also depends on when Amuro joined. Fun idea though =) |
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| Omegalordmaxwell |
Posted: Jun 22 2006, 02:20 AM
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Administrator Amuro Group: Admin Posts: 540 Member No.: 1 Joined: 17-March 06 |
Let's say that Amuro defects to Ramba Ral's forces- this is his only oppertunity to have done so, bsicly. So, what's going to happen- Amuro is certain to fall under kisheria's control. Dozle wouldn't want the guy who killed his little brother anywhere near him. This means that he's on the newtype core, which means that newtype testing for Zeon is moved up.
The Whitebase is likely to be destroyed shortly before odessa, meaning that Zeon's last ditch nuclear tactic succeeds... with one side having violated the antarctic treaty, it's for all intents and purposes going to be ignored. Both sides now have acess to nuklear weapons. question is, who will use them? The Federation's nucklear storage is torrington base, Australia. With the treaty now out of effect, Zeon's going to put all of it's efforts into capturing this base. Maybe Amuro will be assigned to this duty? Amuro Vs. White Dingos could be a reality here. The Federation has lost it's gundam, and the NT1 will never be produced- no cocky whitebase kid to give it too. (Probably Bernie doesn't die the same way) Instead, Gundam Unit's Four and Five probably see more duty. Unit six is still probably a failure, but maybe Unit seven will be moved ahead and actually produced? The federation doesn't have any newtype kid to inform them of the Solar Ray's existance, so probably that tactic is more successful. Zeon probably wins here, naturally. |
| Airmaster |
Posted: Jun 22 2006, 03:53 AM
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Zeta Gundam Group: Members Posts: 263 Member No.: 19 Joined: 19-March 06 |
Hmm... I don't know much if anything about Unit 7
The Madrock if given a more sane pilot might have faired better then it did and could have caused problems for Zeon's land forces. It's also likely Amuro could have been sent to deal with that if Agar didn't blow up his own MS just about every time anyway. But yeah most likely Amuro VS White Dingo would happen. Thing is how would Char have delt with it? And I'm sure for a week or two Amuro and Gundam would have been sent back to space, I'm sure Zeon's techs would have wanted to rip apart the Gundam piece by piece ^^ Which also means we would have seen Gelgoogs sooner most likely. And the likely outcome of Zeon winning would be a much sooner Zeon VS Zeon war.. The remainly family members would probably fight for power... Like in the SD gundam game or what not. I'm sure Gundam Units 4 & 5 would fall to Amuro in combat.. As for things like Blue Destiny I'm not sure. The attack on Jaburo might have gone better with Gundam fighting for Zeon as well. or did that happen before? err Hmm not to sure of the event time line here ; ; And what of the Full Armor Gundam? and G3? I'm sure those would have been used to try and stop Amuro.. |
| Draco Starcloud |
Posted: Jun 22 2006, 07:34 AM
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Zaku II Group: Members Posts: 37 Member No.: 9 Joined: 17-March 06 |
What if....Amuro hadn't been a Newtype? Would he have lasted even through the first battle?
I think he might have made it through his first few battles. Maybe he'd've gotten as far as Ramba Ral before being defeated fully. What if...the Titans had been run by guys like Bright and Hayato to begin with? AEUG probobly would either have never formed or have been formed by Zeon remnants since the Titans would've been a far less corrupt and brutal organization. Titans and the Earth Feds would've been against Haman's small fleet of Axis troops while Scirocco either leads his own Jupiter troops into battle or joined the Titans and created a splinter faction like he did do. What if...the Gyan had beaten the Gelgoog in the race to be Zeon's next generation MS? A few more kills by the Feddies and a lot fewer Zeon survivors. Other than more killed Gyans, no real significant impact beyond Cima using a Gyan to fight Kou's GP-01 instead of a Gelgoog. |
| Omegalordmaxwell |
Posted: Jun 23 2006, 02:52 AM
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Administrator Amuro Group: Admin Posts: 540 Member No.: 1 Joined: 17-March 06 |
The gyan isn't an inferior mobile suit, just an alternate concept- It's intention was for it to be used in formation tactics... Zeon choose the Gelgoog because it could be used more independantly... but since Zeon used formation tactics anyhow, the Gyan wouldn't have necciarily hurt them. (The intended plan was for Gyans to have backup from Rick Doms)
If Amuro hadn't been a newtype, there wouldn't have been any problem for the Zeon whatsoever, and no further gundam types would have been made. As for The fate of Gundam unit six, Ager was a reckless test pilot who was overly driven by hatred for Zeon, it's true, but the power of the One Year War Gundams came primarily from pilots- Amuro fared well because he was a newtype. Otherwise, a Gundam MS wasn't any better than a gelgoog. The Madrock, as fearsome as it's statistics would lead you to beleive, wasn't anything more special than a Dom with a beam rifle and gundarium armor. Gundarium armor is naturaly a superior metal, but not infallable- light machinegun fire is ineffective, but sustained fire or any bazooka can easily defeat it, as proven by the performance of the RX-79 series Gundams. Even with a better pilot, the Madrock would have fared poorly against seasons aces such as those in the midnight fenrir. Ghirens Greed shows us that if Ghiren had won, his family would have fought a civil war against him for power- and Char himself would form Neo Zeon shortly after to deal with them. How would Char deal with Amuro joining Zeon? Like the world's biggest blessing. and Amuro would be the first member of neo Zeon, to be joined shortly by names such as Ramba Ral, Johny Raiden, Apolly, Roberto, Bright Noa, Hayato, (Not Kai- his naturally suspicious nature keeps him from joining anything, and he never wanted to be a soldior in the first place) and of course, Lalah Sune, who hasn't been killed by Amuro in this what if. |
| Airmaster |
Posted: Jun 23 2006, 03:06 AM
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Zeta Gundam Group: Members Posts: 263 Member No.: 19 Joined: 19-March 06 |
Maybe because he was mixed up with Char for having a red MS? Maybe not. And like you said Gundam faired so well because of his pilot. But if Agar wasn't as reckless as he was, the unit would have done at least 1.5-2times as good as it did. But most likely it would have ben barried with all of Jubaro in Zeon's sneak attack, which I am guessing would have gone much better. Who was the intended pilto for Gundam? I am guessing he or she was killed during the attack at side 7? I would also guess that Gundam units 4 & 5 would have done land Combat before(If they lived long enough) to be shipped into space. And Gundam Alex would never have been. And how would have the Apsalus units effected the outcome of the War? It and the MP Byg Zam would have done a great deal of damage planet side for Zeon. |
| Ten No Zeorymer |
Posted: Jun 27 2006, 03:12 PM
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Gundam GP01 Group: Members Posts: 205 Member No.: 29 Joined: 25-March 06 |
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Posted: Jun 27 2006, 05:25 PM
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Zeta Gundam Group: Members Posts: 263 Member No.: 19 Joined: 19-March 06 |
OMGWTFBBQ?! O_o Man that's kinda scary Hmm What is Char liked Women his own age or so =) |
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| Ten No Zeorymer |
Posted: Jun 27 2006, 08:22 PM
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Gundam GP01 Group: Members Posts: 205 Member No.: 29 Joined: 25-March 06 |
Then there'd be no Lalah Sune... What if Camile was forced to join the Titians? Like how in WW2, in germany they had that law where your forced to join the army(Forget what it was called) |
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| Draco Starcloud |
Posted: Jun 29 2006, 06:35 PM
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Zaku II Group: Members Posts: 37 Member No.: 9 Joined: 17-March 06 |
O.O
Doozy Bots? Z'Gok and his ROBOT TURKEY? Oh geez.... |
| bluemax151 |
Posted: Jul 9 2006, 11:22 AM
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Zaku I Group: Members Posts: 25 Member No.: 46 Joined: 7-July 06 |
There was a short extra on one of the 08th ms team dvds about the test pilot of the Gundam. It basically stated that the test pilot witnessed Amuro activate the Gundam while enroute to it's location. It never mentioned (to my knowledge) what happened to the pilot after the fact but I would assume he was sucked into space when that one Zaku exploded and ruptured the colony hull. |
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| Airmaster |
Posted: Jul 9 2006, 06:26 PM
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Zeta Gundam Group: Members Posts: 263 Member No.: 19 Joined: 19-March 06 |
Hmm you sure it was on a DVD?
I don't recall that >_>(Has all 08th MS Team DVDs but not moive) |
| Omegalordmaxwell |
Posted: Aug 21 2007, 12:12 AM
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Administrator Amuro Group: Admin Posts: 540 Member No.: 1 Joined: 17-March 06 |
Note that those DVD shorts are no longer considered official by sunrise, and are meant to be taken as 'bettlefeild rumors', no more, and no less.
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