hmmmm

So I'm here to address a few issues, since the following is completely false and un-true.

ya.....you didn't bann them (us.) Yet we aren't allowed to get on the site, log in, or post on there.

Right......lets stop trying to twist it around as we're the bad guys and your the good holy man.



next

No one spoke up until the site moved......ya...lets see.

Lets look over what happen...

1. We log on...and theirs 5 topics saying to new forums

2. There is a bogus topic saying "We moved cuz of a threat....which we won't explain to anyone and just tell them it doesn't concern them.

Let's not tell them, that people are accusing Drake (someone who has countless times, defended this site and rebuild it.)

lets not tell them, that a lovely person named Kyon was insulted and tossed around like trash.

also, lets not tell them; that if anyone stands up to them. Their topics will just be sent to the gy, blocked from public view, their accounts and ip addresses banned.



Yea....and you wonder why we are mad?



Honestly, you treat us like trash and then try to make yourself look like the good guy.

Thats a huge load of crap, and then you do the typical "tell my life story" to make everyone feel bad for you.


Wake up buddy, its 2007...many of us have two jobs; relationship problems; w/e


But guess what; none of that shit has anything to do with this site.


You guys disregarded several people and just went ahead and made a dumbass decision on your own.


And now that you got called out for it, like you knew you would, you try to cover it up and point fingers.


I mean look at the names on that list.


Mine, - been here since the creation of this site; helping its rebuilding on multiple occassions.

Rei - helped create the damn site and set it straight ; though he did need some correctings at times.

Miharu - on the same level of me

Three long time vets of this site, who know damn well what they are doing and saying

and you outcast us like trash b/c we called you out.


Also you ask, why do we call out you Tokki, Janos, and some others.


b/c the majority of the staff quit upon hearing of the bs you guys told...

and people (good staff members) such as Kaidou even post that they had no idea of what was going on until the very last minute.


How can you preach that your doing something for "the greater good" when all evidence points to you doing something of your own free will and selfish ways.


I've been civil, I've pointed evidence.

And all that has happen is me being banned over and over.



and the final fact, is Tokki no way in shape or form deserves his position.

(If you even think about deleting this topic, I will make sure everyone gets a fucking copy in their pm box.) (Yes I can do that.)


(also, if anyone would kindly link this in the "hey guys" topic on the new site. I'd appreciate it. B/c once again, the falsed "they are not banned" is false.)

This post has been edited by Shingu on Oct 2 2007, 04:41 PM

Seems you've got a few one sided views, my friend. I'll try to address your concerns in an orderly fashion:

- Regarding banning you guys, the only person that's been banned is yourself for creating multiple accounts, for spamming topics when asked to wait and stay on one topic, for insulting staff...the list goes on. I even let you get unsuspended the first time, and you proceeded to repeat everything that got you suspended again, but on a worse level. Don't you think if you really wanted answers, and the staff was telling you I'd be on soon, that you could wait, instead of simply bombarding the board with irrelevant images and songs?

And I shall reiterate the "we couldn't log on" point; everyone of your friends are free to roam around the board. The only one ousted is yourself for failure to listen to a staff member when he asked you to stop spamming and creating multiple accounts.

- "We log on and are surprised?" I'm sure Rei and Miharu had let you know about this place, since they were still staff when Naz didn't follow my wishes and told everyone of the new site. Funny how you're so adamant about all of this when it wasn't even in any one of the current staffers wishes to have this site moved so suddenly, but instead one lone owner who has now left. Check yourself before you wreck yourself, buddy.

And hey, here's that "bogus announcement" that was left for people to see:

Read it over a couple of times, breathe it in. Do you in any way, shape, or form see Drake's name up there? Ok, now looking past the fact it simply lets people know there's a threat to the forums in a nice way and it asks kindly for people to move on, let's look at a post I made in the other forums:

Now take the time to read that one over; breathe it in. Notice how Drake's name isn't there? Do you also notice how the word threat is in plural form? Well, I'll tell you why!

Because Drake was never the sole reason we moved, buddy!

The fact I've had people threaten the board one too many times before was the reason we moved this place. The fact Naz and I had no access to the root account in case something happened badly was why we moved. We never tagged Drake as the sole reason because he wasn't. He exposed a weakness in the system, and it motivated us to fix it.

Funny how reading and finding out the full facts can make you feel better. You said it yourself, the truth will set you free.

Oh, and fyi, you've actually succeeded in dragging Drake's name through the mud and making him look bad. The reason his name never appeared on the forums under any official announcement is because I was protecting him. I didn't want him to get the bad end of crap because he came to me with good intentions and removed his ability to hurt the site. Does it stop him from being a threat, and others doing the same thing? No. But he's left out of all of this because he wasn't the causer of the move. Way to make your friend look bad.

- Treat you like trash? Heh, I'm not even here, and I'm being called a dictator, amongst other things. Name calling isn't cool, man, even to people that have been good to you in the past before.

- It wasn't a dumb ass decision, it's a decision between owners. That's what owners do, decide what's best for the site and run with it

- Not to mention helping break common rules of the forums multiple times. I faintly recall Rei and Hotaru trying to ban you forever and I coming back and letting in, on more than one occasion. Hmm...seems you aren't all that good, eh?

- Also blew up several times for no reason, demoted staff, and has been caught on IM saying he'd never RP here because I'm "ROOT"

- Instead of stopping spam and helping your claim in an orderly fashion, he contributes to it, and locks topics that admins open. Oh what a star.

- I think you pretty much did the outkasting yourself with all those spammed threads you guys made showing how much you really care for the site!

- People like Kaidou weren't on AIM when Naz called the meeting to alert everyone of the move. The move itself (and this is all explained in my post in the initial site) was intended to be known only between Naz, Tokki, and I until we found a way to pay for a better forum. This was all supposed to happen months down the road. What happens? I get home from work to find out Naz called a meeting and TOLD EVERYONE ONLINE.

Imagine my wtf face.

And you say there's evidence of selfish ways? Point to it, please.

Now, this board is supposed to be read only because there's no real need for people to post here now that we've got the new board, but I've noticed a few people post here, so I'll be reverting to that soon, but I'll leave it as it is for a few more days if you feel like responding to me.

And yes, you're the only one banned because you failed to follow rules and stop spamming on one too many occasions; you asked to be banned. However, your buddies are more than welcome to post their arguments as long as they do so in an orderly fashion following common forum rules and forum courtesy (which doesn't include spam and calling people names.)

yes....i purposely wanted to make mult. accounts.....and spamming topics.

or could have been for the same reason I stated earlier.

Lets see,

each topic I posted - lockd/gy (each one my opinion on the matter, and civil)

hmm each extra account - maybe b/c Tokki and others kept banning me since I was spoiling you guys lil plan of dictatorship.

(o and there were no , Saipher will be here soon bullshit as if I cared. They had to do with just as much as you are guilty of.)

yes, lets...try to twist the world around again. Let's try to point me out as the bad guy.

b/c holy man "Saipher" has allowed others to continue harmlessly.

actually sorry buddy, no one spoke to me until after I got banned by your lil lap dog over tempered bitch Tokki. (some one who shouldn't even be in a higher up position)

So do not , once again, try to twist it as I knew it was coming or any other bs.

ya.....and the numerous post from your own staffers saying otherwise is bs then i guess? or can you not read.


Your right its not the sole reaso, Its the bullshit you guys keep using as an excuse for your own selfish entents.

um, yea thats why lets see....numerous members have quit

b/c i exposed your silly ass lie. Sorry buddy but I know Drake's take on my doing and your way off on your false accusation.

Sorry, but I'm not some dumbass puppet you can twist around with words. May work on other people, but not me.

Wrong again, nice try trying to twist it all up.

Hotaru actually wanted me to stay.

Rei wanted me banned b/c I opposed him for doing something to the same nature of this bs you guys are trying.


Breaking rules? Sorry jerk off ....I spoke up b/c you dick heads broke rules.

...demoted staff.....you mean demoted YOU.

you mean instead of aiding you, by sweeping shit under the rug....he stood up for something he knew to be true.

ya...I'd consider that a star. B/c he accepted our opinions...he didn't try to erase them.

Yes only known by you, Naz, and Tokki......other words....dick heads who wanted to sneak shit around everyone's back.


I remember you calling out rei and hide for doing something similiar before.

and i"ll state it one more time, Tokki (someone who has been here for no longer than a month if that) is no person at all to be determing what is the better for this site.

And yes....throw the blame at Naz who isn't here/around to back his case.


How about you just stfu, and accept you fucked up and got caught. end of story.

Just so you know, Shingu, Tokki isn't Saipher's bitch.