outrider - May 15, 2010 08:40 PM (GMT)
So....even if he stays, does LeBron deserve to remain #1 boy? 747y and Bowers haven't let me down as much as he has after all. I mean, he's no Brett Favre, but is he really a DWADE either? I don't know world, I don't know.
Admiral Maxtreme - May 16, 2010 04:21 PM (GMT)
he should remain your boy. the weight of the immeasurable failure of three pathetic franchises was tied solely to him. no one in history could have overcome that.
outrider - May 17, 2010 01:06 PM (GMT)
He walks a thin line my man.
Admiral Maxtreme - May 17, 2010 03:26 PM (GMT)
but this is nothing like the brett favre situation. perhaps your opinion of him as a basketball player could be diminished (and i think it should), but your boy he should remain.
outrider - May 18, 2010 03:27 PM (GMT)
But his boyness is because he's currently the best Cav ever....the way he gave up in that last game....and game 5? atrocious. Does he even care about Craig Ehlo? I don't know #2, I don't know.
Admiral Maxtreme - May 18, 2010 10:01 PM (GMT)
yeah, he did pretty much give up in those two games. but he got you to the finals completely by himself three years ago. plus, even this team is a 40 win team without him.
outrider - May 19, 2010 04:03 AM (GMT)
Eh...I don't know about that. Maybe, but I don't know that all of them are so good without LeBron...they were 1-7 without him on the year.
Admiral Maxtreme - May 19, 2010 05:23 AM (GMT)
I was saying that they wouldn't be good without him. 40 wins is not a good season.
outrider - May 20, 2010 02:21 AM (GMT)
But I don't think 40 wins is even possible. That's bordering on playoff contention in the East.
Admiral Maxtreme - May 20, 2010 03:42 AM (GMT)
yeah, but the east is pathetic. with the team that started the season, they definitely wouldn't have gotten 40 wins without him, but i think with antawn jamison they could get 40 out of a weak conference.
outrider - May 20, 2010 07:35 PM (GMT)
They'd be fools to keep Tawn if LeBron leaves though...He's worth too much young talent and too many draft picks. Unless his contract sucks, but it will be expiring next year...
Admiral Maxtreme - May 21, 2010 01:13 AM (GMT)
that is true. i was talking about if they had had him from the beginning of this year. if lebron leaves, then they should blow up the team and start over. it might be wise to literally blow up the team, but let's take it one step at a time.
outrider - May 23, 2010 06:37 AM (GMT)
Preach it son. Hell, if LeBron stays, blow that shit up. Do whatever the fuck it takes to get championship to Cleveland. Pay Phil Jackson 1 billion dollars a year. I don't care.
Admiral Maxtreme - May 23, 2010 05:02 PM (GMT)
the thing is, even if he does stay, i don't know what they could do to build a championship team. outside of jamison (and to a much lesser extent, williams and varejao), they have no assets whatsoever.
outrider - May 24, 2010 06:44 AM (GMT)
Too true, and it pisses me off. But I do feel like this team could have won a championship with more competent lineups and a heavy dose of a coach who gives a fuck about making sure his players give a fuck.
Admiral Maxtreme - May 24, 2010 05:41 PM (GMT)
that is also true. given that they just fired mike brown, they might just hire that kind of coach.
outrider - May 25, 2010 12:47 AM (GMT)
I hope so. I have changed my mind about a million times today on if they should wait to hire a coach or not...I feel like they could lock up LeBron with the right coach, but, on the other hand, I feel like they could get a better, not-quite superstar but good investment for the future coach if they know LeBron won't be back...
Admiral Maxtreme - May 25, 2010 01:49 AM (GMT)
i have a feeling that the cavs pretty much know if he's leaving or not. i think that even though he's been quiet about it in the media (for good reason), i'm sure he tells them much more in private. i'd bet that they are 95% sure of what he is going to do.
outrider - May 25, 2010 01:44 PM (GMT)
I hope you're right #2. That's basically always true and I often use that hope to have my midnight meetings with your mother.
Admiral Maxtreme - May 25, 2010 10:05 PM (GMT)
in what way could you use that?
outrider - May 31, 2010 05:21 PM (GMT)
Well, I use the information you give me to set them up...so I use my hope that you're right to do my thang.
Admiral Maxtreme - May 31, 2010 08:58 PM (GMT)
but when do i ever give you any information that you could use to do that?