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Title: Help a brother out


Nestor - February 12, 2010 09:19 PM (GMT)
I'll explain the situation and relevant back-history and then ask for appropriate input.

First off, I met a guy about eight years ago and took him under my wing. intelligent, personable, but socially awkward. I schooled and educated him on (what I considered to be) common sense, and beat his insecurities out with a stick. I moved away and let him grow on his own.

four years later I hear that he has a job, a girlfriend, and a kid on the way. I feel proud that I was able to kick-start him from zero to hero. I'm also happy for him because he made this happiness with his own hands.

Two years ago I start working at Dell. He's down on his luck and lost his job. His girlfriend is threatening to leave him, etc. I get him a job at Dell, albeit not in my department. I sat in a lab and play with systems that haven't been released to public market, he did tech support. A few months down the line I heard rumors that he's not doing his job. He's spending all of his time on social networking sites and chat rooms and a few months later he gets fired.

I was cool with a large number of staff there; we frequented the same bars and played pool and went to each others' barbecues. After some probing I found out that yes, he had been spending all his time on internet chat rooms. A year later (2008) it's finally revealed what it was that he was doing: he was talking to little girls over the internet and trying to get them to take their clothes off on webcam for him. This sets me off, but at the same time I'm wary of rumor and I understand how water-cooler talk blows things out of proportion.

I go to the source and tell him that he was keylogged. I tell him I've seen the screen captures. I didn't, because they don't exist, but he doesn't know this, and he admits to everything. I tell him I can't associate with a pedophile and I cut my ties.

His girlfriend is this emotionally broken and psychologically cowed thing, but I tell her, feeling like she has a right to know- after all they have a two year old daughter. It's like I'm the last one to know- everyone knows he's like this, no one feels socially obligated.

Here in Utah, Child Protective Services is a curious beast. They'll react pretty quickly, but at the same time, they're quick to let things go as "crying wolf" unless there's irrefutable conclusive evidence. I kick myself in the ass all the time because I didn't save the conversation between him and I, it might've been enough to at least get the ball rolling.

In the year since I've outed him as a pedophile, he's lost every job he's tried to hold onto, he's moved from state to state because he can't rent anymore, and he can't pay child support. My problem is this: some of my friends still associate with him. Defend him, even. they put him up in their homes, they feed him, help him to look for jobs (knowing full well he'll lose it a few days or weeks later) and they put up with his bullshit. It's bizarre listening to them castigate him as a pedophile when he's not around and when he's around it's "hey, let me help you out." I also notice how they do their very best to keep him and I apart- they know full well I'll swing on him, or if I happen to be carrying that day, I'd draw on him. I mean, I know that it's edgy and cool to pretend you like to fuck little kids on the internet or whatever, I guess that's cool in some eyes, but frankly, the real deal is disgusting and I would feel justified.

Am I wrong in thinking he should be left to swing for himself? that he should be outed, castigated, flayed with whips, cast into the streets and pissed upon?

tl;dr: Am I really the bad guy?

CrimsonAlchemist - February 12, 2010 10:09 PM (GMT)
No. I think you're probably T-Prime. Maybe Martin.

hydrowolfy - February 12, 2010 10:38 PM (GMT)
I couldn't say. Without a first hand look at the situation, without the ability to look at the situation without either hearing it from both sides, or without having a first hand account, I can't say whether or not you are the bad guy. With that in mind, remember: you are not the justice system, it's the courts who decide whether or not this guy deserves to be punished, not you, and you're obviously baised against this person for personal reasons. You should simply call the cops, tell them what you know, and let them handle it.

Walletfullofpennies - February 12, 2010 10:59 PM (GMT)
He is a pedophile, he always was, it's not your fault.
Shit sucks I take it?

Number17 - February 12, 2010 11:54 PM (GMT)
You should have cut ties with him and then told him to go see a psychiatrist.

cmdrnmartin - February 13, 2010 12:02 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (CrimsonAlchemist @ Feb 12 2010, 05:09 PM)
No. I think you're probably T-Prime. Maybe Martin.

That's one of the nicest things someone has said about me.

@Nestor: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... I think you gave him his chance, he threw it away. Until he arrives at a realization of some sort, there is not much more you could do.

Number17 - February 13, 2010 04:53 AM (GMT)
I WILL REMEMBWER YOU!~

WILL YOU REMEMBER ME!?

DON'T LET YOUR LIFFFFFEEE PASSSS YOU BYYYY

Oh man...no mor wihistky before 11.

Sender - February 13, 2010 08:12 AM (GMT)
Wash your hands clean.

FetusEater - February 13, 2010 06:23 PM (GMT)
You've already done more to help him than you ever needed to.
Your former friend had his chance and fucked it up.
Breaking all ties to him was the best thing you could have done.

Synaquć - February 14, 2010 10:49 AM (GMT)
Maintaining contact is a sure-fire way to get dragged down.
Cutting ties and forgetting about it is, IMO, the best action to take, under the circumstances.

I'm not sure how well you know these friends, but do you want to be associated with someone that sympathizes with his self wrought position when he is there, and does the opposite when he isn't?

I wouldn't.

Edited to fix a bit.

WildCard - February 14, 2010 08:39 PM (GMT)
You lie down with dogs, you wake up with fleas. - Benjamin Franklin


You did the right thing. Perception is reality. He's a pedo, plain and simple. You didn't make him say those things to little girls.

Also, I'd be wary of your association with people are clearly back-talkers and callow.

T-Prime - February 23, 2010 06:04 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (CrimsonAlchemist @ Feb 12 2010, 05:09 PM)
No. I think you're probably T-Prime. Maybe Martin.

Shawut?

Known_As_Chaos - June 7, 2010 04:57 PM (GMT)
I applaud Nestor for showing restraint and not shooting the pedobear on sight.




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